Replacing AVI/FLV with MP4 what do you think?
June 9th, 2008 by heathenxRichard and I have been mulling over the use of MP4′s for the last couple of weeks now. More so than we have in the past. We think now that we can finally do this but only if our current viewers are ok with it. We have all gotten used to the present AVI/FLV format that we have had for the last 61 episodes and we don’t want to ruin anything by changing.
Several of our viewers inquired about adding Screencasters’ videos to the iTunes store some time ago. We looked into it at the time and found that our present AVI (h.264.mp3) files were not compatible with iTunes. We looked at the requirements and found that our videos needed to be in MP4 (h.264/aac) instead. We felt that we could not quite achieve this since it wasn’t an efficient process for us. In addition, the flash plug-in and the flash player that we had was unable to support MP4 streaming video fully. What Richard and I were truly interested in was using the same MP4 for download and streaming so that we did not have to encode and upload multiple MP4′s. We would then eliminate the the separate AVI and FLV files that we were encoding. It would be nice to consolidate and use only one file as a general purpose file. We could encode with fewer steps, meaning that it wouldn’t take us as long to make the final video and we would only have to upload a single video to our server. Moreover, the larger MP4 file size still would be smaller than the combined file sizes of the AVI and FLV, meaning less room on our server as well. Although, you must be warned that the MP4 file will be 30-40% larger than the AVI equivalent. This is due to the limitation that iTunes/Quicktime has with b-frame video files. It is our understanding that we have to remove all b-frames from the MP4′s in order to reach full compatibility. Adding b-frames to our AVI’s was something that we did to keep the file size lower. So for you folks on slower Internet connections, it will take a little longer to download the MP4, whether it be the download or streaming file. Of course we’re no iTunes/Quicktime experts. So if we can make improvements with our file sizes in the future then we will absolutely do it. We like as small file sizes as we can get them. Plus, if some of you are experts in this area then we will listen to any advice that you can offer us.
All of this sounds good and makes sense to us but there are some things that Richard and I are worried about. You! We need your feedback. We still intend to offer a download file for off line viewing and a streaming file for on line viewing (even though technically there is no difference between the two in terms of the actual file). That will remain the same. The only difference is that the file format will change. During our testing, we found that this wasn’t an issue on our Linux and Windows computers. We can watch MP4′s with VLC, Mplayer, and Quicktime/iTunes among many other players that we have. We would be changing from the MP3 to the AAC audio codec though since that is needed for iTunes/Quicktime compatibility. I think we would prefer working with MP3′s but I’m sure we’ll get used to AAC over time.
Also, we verified that our new MP4′s will play on a MAC. Thanks to Richard’s good pal, Earl Moore (dedicated Mac user). Furthermore, I fired up iTunes on my Windows machine, verified iTunes playback, and then let iTunes convert our MP4 at 912×684 resolution to iPod format and synced that to my iPod. It played and sounded great. Although, the screen size is small so we do not recommend that method for watching our videos…but what the hell, right? We’re not going to tell you what you can or cannot do with your devices. If that sort of thing is what you want to do then do it and be happy about it. 
We would also be including meta tags in the MP4′s. It isn’t necessary (we don’t think) but it looks nicer in iTunes and with then you’ll be able to sort our videos a little better. So for you iTunes and iPod users please let us know how our MP4 works on your computer.
As far as Miro is concerned, we haven’t forgotten about that. We’re pretty sure nothing will change there. I subscribe to Meet the Gimp with Miro and Rolf’s files are already in the MP4 iTunes compatible format so I’m using that as my gauge. If it works for him then it should work for us (crossing fingers), right?. We’re hoping that no disruptions will be had.
Unfortunately, Richard and I have decided not to re-encode videos already in the AVI format. We think it’s way too much work for us and that’s why MP4′s are only for going forward. However, we may decide to encode the last few episodes just to get a few more videos on the iTunes store. You viewers can re-encode our AVI’s anyway that you wish if needed. We’re somewhat sorry about that but what can you expect from us? We’re not Revision3…that’s for sure.
So that’s it folks. Please tell us what you think. We would like to get a response from you. Please remember, iTunes is just another way to grab our videos. Nothing in terms of distribution on our website will change. RSS will still be the same. If you use iTunes (or Miro) then fine but it isn’t necessary. We are just giving our viewers and future viewers another option. Richard and I are not iTunes users so we are not doing this for ourselves. We’re doing this for you. There is a poll at the bottom of this post. Please fill it in and submit it to make your voices heard.
Our latest episode, ep062, has already been encoded into the MP4 format. We will use this as our prototype for testing. Please view this video the way that you have always viewed our videos, either by downloading the file or watching it on line. Hopefully, everything will work the same as did before.
Good luck and may the force be with you.
Download: ep062.mp4 (Filesize: 146MB)
Streaming: ep062.mp4 (Identical file as above)
June 10th, 2008 at 6:59 am
Hello
If you want quality, libx264 is the best quality you’ll get.
Last day i made a screencast for Scribus (without sound) during 10 min. I use ffmpeg to re-encode my movie ; only 28Mo.
The command line was “ffmpeg -i capture001.dv -an -vcodec libx264 -r 25 -b 1200 -s 832×624 -sameq -qcomp 8 -y Scribus.mov”
Then if you want to see how it look, watch here in Totem only (vlc seems buggy with my currently version – 0.8.6e) :
-> http://www.lequidam.net/files/Scribus.mov
But i don’t know know exactly howto make a flash with x264.
June 10th, 2008 at 7:30 am
Well, the problem is similar. I have images in Totem, but no sound. I have sound in VLC, but no images !
Your tutorial is again a good stuff and will help many people
June 10th, 2008 at 8:50 am
What a great tutorial again! Thanks a lot, you guys really rock! The Internet would be so much poorer without people like you! May the force continue to be with you
As for the vote: AVI download was fine with me and would be my favourite (quality wise not worse than MP4, but smaller file size), though MP4 download will be OK, too, if it’s better for iTunes users.
Thanks again, and keep up the great work!
June 10th, 2008 at 9:33 am
Neat tut HX,
I’d rather keep as is. I keep all the videos on file and would like to see them kept at a smaller size for downloading and storage.
June 10th, 2008 at 10:15 am
@eclipse
Richard and I had used x264 for all 61 of our episodes. We’ll continue to use it for MP4′s if we decide to go with that format. The only change would happen to the audio codec: MP3 to AAC.
Thanks for the script but I can never get ffmpeg to get me the same quality as mencoder, even with the -sameq switch. I downloaded your MOV and it does play in iTunes.
@Don W
We hear you. We’re not too excited about the larger file size either. Hopefully that will improve in the future. We spoiled you guys with b-frames in the AVI’s.
@Everyone
What we are interesting in too is if the streaming mp4 plays in your browser as well as playing in your media player after you download it. Downloading is one thing but if these MP4′s don’t stream as well as FLV’s then it might be a show stopper. You’ll need at least version 9 of the flash player.
June 10th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Streaming was perfect in Firefox on Vista. Download played in AVS, Media Player Classic, SM Player, Q Time, and VLC. Win Med Player had good video but the audio was VERY tinny sounding. The best overall was VLC.
June 10th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
@Don W
Awesome! Thanks for running it through all of your players. That’s the kind of testing that we’re after.
June 10th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
First thing I noticed, WOW 140MB! Timewise, that’s 5 fewer minute for your previous largest screencast ep051 at 90MB.
I always download your screencasts and don’t quite understand why folks would want them streaming to their browser. I feel they’re worth storing and viewing at my leisure, over and over again, if I don’t quite get something. I wonder if there’s a tradeoff – size on your severs as opposed to bandwidth – costwise?
I use Kaffeine for my download player. I also checked KMPlayer, MPlayer and VLC and all worked with downloaded file. Clicking on the steaming file downloads it but doesn’t play in Konqueror.
It’s commendable that you hold your audience in such high regard as to defer to their wishes, when most should be grateful you put out such a high quality product in the first place. My hat’s off to you, HeathenX and Richard.
Cheers
June 10th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
@Jaws
You’ll need at least flash-player 9.0.115 I think. Is that what you have? I’m actually using version 10b1 for the flash-player on my Ubuntu machine at home and for beta software it’s actually pretty stable (just for your information). I do remember flash working a little flaky in Konqueror on my openSUSE 10.3 install at the time. Curious. What distro do you use? Do you have another browser that you can try?…Firefox…Opera…Seamonkey?
Thanks for your input.
June 10th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
“You’ll need at least flash-player 9.0.115 I think. Is that what you have?”
Okay, I see that’s where the problem is but since I do the downloads, it’s not really a problem for me. We’re way behind in the flash player version because the PCLOS developer won’t release the newest version since it’s so flaky in Konky and I don’t blame him.
After doing some research, I guess the latest version of Flash would work in Firefox but unfortunately I’m not that much of a Linux geek and prefer not getting my tit in a wringer by hosing my system. I prefer stability over bleeding edge. Sorry.
Cheers
June 10th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
@Jaws
If you want a newer flash plugin then you don’t need to install anything. You simply download the latest from Adobe Labs, unzip it and copy the libflashplayer.so into the same dir where your current one is. I always rename my original so that I can get back to it if I need it. It’s that simple and it doesn’t hose anything. If it works then it works. If it doesn’t then you can just delete it. On the other hand, I can appreciate the concern that you have for your own system so I won’t pressure you into anything. Sometimes, better safe than sorry.
June 10th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
I figure I should nudge my way in here somewhere.
I appreciate the fact that people like to download and save the episodes. I know when I watch heathenx’s episodes there is usually something I need to back up and look at later on.
The filesize is also a concern. 140MB is getting ‘up there’ but at 912×864 and decent quality, it doesn’t shock me. It would be nice to see it at 100MB instead, but still, even a lot of audio podcasts I listen to are now approaching 100MB.
I’m not sure how important iTunes is in terms of screencasts. Maybe there are a lot of Windows and Mac users who might subscribe through iTunes and watch on their pc’s. I’m not sure if the assumption that iTunes means watching on a small portable screen is entirely correct. MP4 does seem to be the way online video is going.
@Jaws – we do hold our listeners/viewers in high regard – it’s honestly why we do it (well..er.. heathenx likely does it because of the women it get’s him, but we won’t tell). Thanks for such a nice comment Jaws.
June 11th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Just played with Ubuntu 8.04 with VMWare on a Vista PC. Audio is very low but could be because of the setup.
Iĺl try on an Ubuntu only and report back.
June 11th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
On the PC with Ubuntu only, I just found out that the sound card is not supported by 8.04. Seems to
be a bug. BUT the video is great.
Sorry, DRW
June 11th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Just for telling you i can watch your screencast ep62 with Banshee 1.0 (1.0.0).
June 11th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
It’s me again !
I tryed to subscribe to the podcast with banshee1. I used the url you have with miro.
Then i can watch (streaming) or download episode 48 to 61. Whereis ep 62 ?!?
But if i watch an episode through streaming, there is too many “jerky”.
Banshee uses gstreamer as backend. Make a try and you will see !
June 11th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
EKKKKKKK!!!!
I tunes is an unfree software from apple, company who is pretentious enough to think their perfects!
DON’T DO A SUCH THING!
June 11th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
@eclipse
I have been enjoying banshee 1.0 too. I installed it yesterday and was toying around with my wife’s ipod. It worked great.
I also watched ep062 (off line) with banshee and it played just fine. I subscribed to our video feed too but mine played great without any jerky-ness. Perhaps it’s a bandwidth thing. Only the last 15 episodes show up because that’s all that we allow when grabbing the feed for the first time.
You won’t find episode 062 because we haven’t gone live with it yet. That’s why it isn’t on the episode page. The episode that does show on this blog is probably what we will go live with after the voting process. We have basically given you a teaser to something we haven’t published yet.
June 11th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
@qwerty800
Haha! Look, we’re pretty opinionated about iTunes too but just because we are putting our videos into a format that iTunes can play doesn’t mean that you have to use it. Watch them in whatever player that you were watching them in before. iTunes is just another way to find our videos.
June 12th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
How about you guys just shove a few on to see how the results are before commiting to such a procedure before knowing the fruit it will bear?? Just encode a couple, put it out, and test to see the response and have feedback based on testing. Instead of trying to plan before hand and possibly choose wrong and have it all blow-up in your faces. Just try a test on iTunes before you commit to something crazy like perminant switches of formats that are doomed to fail for reasons yet unknown. Let the users guide your authority. *note* I don’t use iTunes and am a 100% Linux(sidux/Debian) user so this only affects my bandwidth usage.
June 13th, 2008 at 6:00 am
@HeavensRevenge
That makes total sense.
I don’t feel like anything is going to blow up in our faces. If MP4′s crash and burn for us then we gladly sprint back to AVI’s. What would be tragic is re-encoding ALL of our videos into MP4 format and then finding that they don’t work for whatever reason. That would suck. However, we do not plan to do that.
June 13th, 2008 at 9:03 am
It wouldn’t be too tragic for me (rfquerin) ,if you (heathenx), converted all the past vids to mp4. Even if you had to then go back and re-encode them all back to avi it wouldn’t affect me. I’m all about delegating responsibility, especially if it involves me not doing more work
Seriously, it looks from our meager poll results (C’MON PEOPLE – GET OUT THERE AND VOTE!) that it’s pretty much a toss up between AVI and MP4. I know that MP4 can allow iTunes capability. And while I’ve never used iTunes, and have no intention of using it, it IS a viable way for people to discover and subscribe to our screencast feed. I still get one or two YouTube subscriptions coming in on my screencasts even though I haven’t posted one there in months. I think being reachable via iTunes is not a requirement but it would be valuable.
Also, I wonder if there are any (or many) people who CAN play the AVI’s but who CAN’T play the MP4 files. Since it’s all h264, I’m not sure this is even an issue, but I thought I’d ask the question.
So to me, the only real sticking point is the file size. Are we willing to trade off 20 or 30% larger files in order to allow people to subscribe via iTunes? I’m still torn on this. Maybe we are still missing something in our mp4 encoding that might solve this problem anyway.
June 13th, 2008 at 9:24 am
If people aren’t going to vote then we’ll make the decision for them. We were just trying to be a little democratic about it.
So far, we haven’t gotten any feedback from iTunes users. Maybe we lost them. Maybe they stopped using iTunes. Maybe they stopped using Inkscape. Maybe they stopped watching our videos. Maybe they’re bashful.
Regarding file size, I have read posts that claim Quicktime compatible files can have no b-frames, can have only 1 b-frame, and can have 2 to 3 b-frames. So far the only thing that we can get to work are the ones with no b-frames. Me thinks that Quicktime is one shitty media player because of that limitation. If we could add b-frames to MP4′s and keep Quicktime/iTunes compatibility then I think that we could get the resulting MP4 smaller than the AVI equivalent.
June 13th, 2008 at 9:32 am
@ Richard, re: meager poll results
I guess the majority of your users hasn’t even discovered this blog entry yet.
Speaking for myself, I don’t visit the blog on a regular basis — I usually only drop by on your start page every few days looking for a new screencast.
This time, not having found there anything new for a week or so, I turned to the blog looking for a possible reason and accidentally discovered your call for vote.
Perhaps there should be a link to this blog entry on your start page, where people normally expect the latest screencast.
June 13th, 2008 at 10:01 am
@andy3
Oh boy! This will surely piss Richard off. He wanted to add the poll to the episode page in the beginning and I was reluctant to in an attempt to keep our episode page clear from non-episode related content. Maybe we should do this after all…in which case this was totally my fault and not Richard’s.
June 13th, 2008 at 11:32 am
I’m not one for saying “told you so”… but .. TOLD YOU SO!!
June 13th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
I can play the MP4 video in MPlayer (1.0rc2), VLC (0.8.6f) and Kaffeine (0.8.6) on Linux. In all of them both video and audio played fine. The video image quality is excellent; it is incredibly crisp. Chapeau, you guys! Maybe the quality was already that high in previous shows but I must admit I missed the last couple of shows (yeah, yeah, shame on me).
I used also the streaming version in Firefox (2.0.0.14) and Opera (9.50). I have the flashplugin 9.0.124.0. Only the intro (the Blender part), showed colour shifting at some places and was a bit jerky. The result of re-encoding?
The 20-30% increase in size does not bother me.
What’s Rolf’s experience? Did he receive complaints? You can always ask him. He owes you now since you made his logo in SVG format
By the way, when everything has worked out and if you settle down for MP4, would you mind to give the mencoder script? I am curious about that.
June 13th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
Thanks for the input Serge. But how dare you miss the last couple of episodes… I’m truly appalled.
I don’t think we’d have any qualms about giving out our mencoder scripts for our previous workflow or what we’re thinking of doing in the future. I’ve personally given people scripts to do the Flip Video to h264/mp3 avi conversion for my Flip camera several times already. I’ve just been too lazy to post it on my blog.
We’re in this to share knowledge not keep it.
June 13th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
@Serge
Yo, Serge! Thanks for testing the MP4 in your players. The color-shifting on the intro is the best that we’re going to get with our process.
Btw, regarding the file size. I need to come clean about something. The original OGG/Vorbis file of the screencast is the largest that I have ever made at 107MB. Most are around the 60MB range. This episode ran for about 22 minutes and is larger than the 800×600 videos that we used to make. Turning this into an MP4 (with added intro and tags) added about 40MB to the file size. The AVI equivalent comes in at about 130MB. So MP4′s aren’t that much bigger.
Regarding the mencoder scripts for MP4′s, we are using the script that you gave a few months ago (slightly altered) combined with some other scripts. Go to our contact page and email us (so that I can get your email address) and I’ll send you the whole bash script.
I already talked with Rolf regarding MP4′s. He sent me his FFMpeg MP4 script. However, his script didn’t quite lend us the quality that we were used to in comparison to the mencoder scripts. Anyway, I sent him our scripts so he could at least see how we were doing it.
You need to at least watch Richard’s episode 060. It has a pretty kick-ass intro…and the screencast isn’t too shabby either.
Regarding mencoder and encoding video in Linux, we owe the author of h264enc/xvidenc (Grozdan) a lot of credit. Also, thanks to you Serge for helping us with the original MP4 script.
June 13th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
To me it seems to be a step backwards if the files have to get bigger only because iTunes doesn’t conform to the h264 standard. Maybe you should just wait until iTunes supports b-Frames.
But what about changing now to mp4, h264 (with b-Frames, just like it is now) and aac? This way the conversion of the old episodes would be rather simple: Convert mp3 to aac and save everything to a mp4 container. No video re-encoding would be needed.
But no matter how you decide, I will continue watching your excellent tutorials to inkscape. Your screencasts not only show what tools inkscape provides but also tell us how to create something creative with them. This is something I miss from some other video tutorials in the web.
June 13th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
@Richie,
I think heathenx is still unsure as to whether iTunes really enforces ‘no b-frames’ or not. I think he’s getting conflicting info on it. Also as heathenx pointed out in his last comment, the filesize difference for ep062 was only about 10MB (and not 40) so it’s much less of a problem that I had initially thought.
About your last comment about our screencasts, I’m so glad you find them useful not only as a tool to learn Inkscape but as examples of how to do creative work. The quality of our creative work is severely suspect
but I value that comment a lot. If you go through many of my episodes you’ll notice that I actually don’t use the whole multitude of complex things that Inkscape can do. Instead, I end up using a fairly small subset of its functionality to do all sorts of different things.
That is not on purpose either!
It’s more likely because I just never take the time to learn all the new tools. That’s what heathenx’s episodes are for! Seriously, every time I watch one of his screencasts I see some tool or method that I didn’t realize existed in Inkscape. 
– of course then I steal them and claim I knew about them all along.. shhh.. don’t tell anyone that.
June 14th, 2008 at 8:39 am
mp4 played fine here on kubuntu, nice quality both audio and video, although the filesize is too big in my opinion…
I understand that mp4 would give you more viewers, but please don’t make us all pay the price in HD space and bandwidth… the internet is big and not everyone has big bandwidth and big hard disks.
Although many people use the iPod (easy to grab market when u have all the money you squiss out of consumers for marketing), I don’t think we should all pay the price for others mistakes in choosing platform. Free software counts for more than just free beer!!
Please at least keep providing an avi version of the screencasts!
June 14th, 2008 at 8:58 am
Ditto: Manuee
June 14th, 2008 at 9:00 am
well, I dont give a fuck about AVI – I dont like my browsers cluttered with inline media player crap – but I like the FLASHy way. Thus, I can view your stuff both at home and at work. At home, I can dl the stuff if I want to, but at work there’s neither time nor bandwidth for this (remember: people are in a need of this bandwidth for THEIR work).
So, PLEASE stick to the flash, but I really dont care whether you use AVI or MP4 for download and archiving purposes.
cu, w0lf.
June 14th, 2008 at 9:20 am
@manuee
As heathenx stated above, the equivalent avi file for this episode would have been about 130MB. So it’s less than a 10% increase in filesize. Like he says, most of our episodes are about 60MB, so that would mean an increase to about 66MB. I’m not so sure the increase is as big as it looks at first glance. I’m thinking posting a 140MB sample maybe wasn’t the best thing to illustrate the difference, but it’s a great episode so what the heck!
And if we are able to implement b-frames in the mp4 files, then we actually might be able to reduce the filesize from what it is now.
And remember, that posting an mp4 file doesn’t mean you need to use iTunes or an iPod (I use/own neither – or actually anything from Apple for that matter), it just gives this capability to those who want to.
@fwolf
The main benefit in terms of workflow for us is that we’d be able to use the same mp4 file for both streaming AND direct downloading purposes. We will be providing a streaming version no matter what, the change would mean that we only have to host one file instead of two and we would have eliminated a whole encoding step from our workflow (encoding the flv file sometimes takes a hour on my lowly P4 system so this is not a small thing to me either).
Thanks for the comments people!
June 14th, 2008 at 9:25 am
@fwolf – Sorry, forgot to mention one thing before. Episode 062 that is up on the main site right now is a streaming MP4 file (and not a Flash file). Please check and let us know if you had any problems viewing it and any comments you had on the quality of the streaming version.
Thanks.
June 14th, 2008 at 9:36 am
@Richard QUerin
Then i was misguided by the filesize of this episode, my apologies on that heheh
The quality of the video is very great, even in fullscreen, i can handle a 10% increase in filesize, helps see the gradients etc bettter.
I guess I should’ve read all comments before posting… but there’s truely a lot to read hehe – hot topic.
I’m ok with mp4 then i guess, <3 screencasters -
June 14th, 2008 at 9:42 am
@manuee
Don’t worry, I was initially misguided about the size increase too. Although heathenx is the one doing all the heavy lifting right now in terms of trying out different encoding tests, so I’d like him to weigh in regarding the filesize issue.
Geez, 38 comments and counting. I’m always bad for not reading through too. It’s great that at least we’re hearing from our viewers.
June 14th, 2008 at 10:15 am
@Richard Querin
Ah yes, choosing encoder can be a real headache! Specially streamlining the whole process so that we don’t loose all our free time in the process… heh. Me and some friends are trying to put together a screencasting site for the CMS Drupal, so I can relate to what you guys are going through here.
I personally am very grateful that I found your site, you guys do an outstanding job to the Inkscape community, and to the design world as a whole I would say. And the screencasts themselves are fun to watch, easy to follow, and practical examples, wich in my opinion is the best way to learn the workflow of a program. The least I can do is help out with my “priceless” input (lol), since now thanks to you I can make nice icons and even site mockups on Inkscape, and I think i get there faster than in other packages.
Inkscape is probably one of the packages with most potential in the free software world, it’s amazing how powerful and flexible is … yet it’s still at 0.46 (stable)!! I can’t even imagine how it’ll be like when we finally get to Inkscape 1.0
But I’m digressing here, best of luck to Heathenx on the task, and keep on doing a great job guys!
Greetings from Barcelona
June 14th, 2008 at 10:24 am
@manuee – when you get your Drupal screencasting site up and going, drop us a line, we’d give you some link love on the blog no problemo!
June 14th, 2008 at 11:03 am
Wow! Now we’re getting some votes. Looks like AVI/FLV is winning at this point.
@fwolf
Ha!, don’t worry. Either MP4 or FLV you’ll still have a streaming version to watch online while you’re at work. We’re not taking that away from anyone. Just watch ep062 online and see how it streams for you. Should work the same as flash if you have the flash-plugin v9.0.115 or above. And…since we are streaming the MP4 it shouldn’t tax your cpu like flash does. That’s another benefit of streaming MP4′s that we forgot to mention.
June 14th, 2008 at 11:10 am
@Richard Querin
Thanks a lot for the offer! However, the screencasts (and site) will be in spanish, so I doubt that your visitors would benefit from the link… wouldn’t make much sense. We are doing it in spanish because there’s a huge deficit in documentation/screencasts for drupal in this language. Again, thanks!
@heathenx
About the vote, I voted for avi, but I guess i jumped into the vote too quickly… my vote would be now with mp4 after geting more information on the issue. Just thought I should mention this for what is worth!